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I know you are talking about adding more longs to the MU position…
I have positions in MU and i don’t know options well enough to know if there is an opportunity i am missing or if it makes sense to leave current spreads alone and add new ones. please give me your thoughts:
Here is what i own in my brokerage (non-retirement):
long 1 Jan 2028 $200 call – bought for $133 now $1,000
short 1 Jan 2028 $520 call – rolled original position up and sold this for $532 now $797
in my Roth i own:
2 long Jan 2028 $195 calls – bought for $95 now $1,002
2 short Jan 2028 $300 calls – sold for $86 and now $931
just subscribed - can you please give us some feedback on PCE and how that narrative goes with MU today? I see that interest rates are actually down which is not what i would have expected seeing PCE up.
PCE today is telling you “inflation is still too hot for comfort but not getting *worse* than feared,” and MU is telling you “this particular AI bubble got way ahead of itself, even with phenomenal fundamentals.” Those two narratives can absolutely coexist, which is why you’re seeing **PCE up but yields down** and a very jumpy MU.
- Yields had already moved up into the PCE print on fear of an upside surprise; when the number hit **as expected**, you get a **“relief rally” in Treasuries** and yields drift lower.
- Lower yields help all the long‑duration stuff — especially mega‑cap tech and AI — even though, ironically, the inflation backdrop is exactly why Warsh just took cuts off the table.
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## How that sits next to MU’s craziness
Now overlay MU:
- Micron has turned into the **poster child of the AI memory boom**, with revenue and margins going parabolic:
So MU isn’t moving on PCE; it’s moving on the realization that **even spectacular fundamentals can’t justify infinite multiple expansion**. Your “physics” analogy from the post captures it: a limited amount of real money (the air) stretched the price (the bubble surface) to the point where a tiny change in sentiment could knock \$100 off the stock.
- But markets had already priced a lot of that in after CPI, retail sales, and Warsh’s “we may hike” debut. Today’s PCE **didn’t add a new shock**, so bonds get a modest bid and yields slide.
- For MU and the AI complex, the key driver isn’t this individual PCE print; it’s the **combination** of:
- A higher‑for‑longer Fed regime, *and*
- Valuations that implied AI would be flawless, frictionless, and linear forever.
Today’s tape is essentially saying:
> “Macro is bad but not worse; AI demand is real but not magic; and anything priced like a golden goose that lays a 2‑pound solid‑gold egg every quarter is going to live with massive volatility while gravity (and PCE) are still pulling underneath.”
So MU gets tossed between bubble physics and real earnings, while rates sag a bit on “no surprise” PCE. Both things can be true at the same time.
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Phil,
I know you are talking about adding more longs to the MU position…
I have positions in MU and i don’t know options well enough to know if there is an opportunity i am missing or if it makes sense to leave current spreads alone and add new ones. please give me your thoughts:
Here is what i own in my brokerage (non-retirement):
long 1 Jan 2028 $200 call – bought for $133 now $1,000
short 1 Jan 2028 $520 call – rolled original position up and sold this for $532 now $797
in my Roth i own:
2 long Jan 2028 $195 calls – bought for $95 now $1,002
2 short Jan 2028 $300 calls – sold for $86 and now $931
thanks for your help!
You are Clowndaddy, right? I did answer this one in chat.
subscribed
Phil,
just subscribed - can you please give us some feedback on PCE and how that narrative goes with MU today? I see that interest rates are actually down which is not what i would have expected seeing PCE up.
From Boaty:
PCE today is telling you “inflation is still too hot for comfort but not getting *worse* than feared,” and MU is telling you “this particular AI bubble got way ahead of itself, even with phenomenal fundamentals.” Those two narratives can absolutely coexist, which is why you’re seeing **PCE up but yields down** and a very jumpy MU.
## What PCE is actually saying
Today’s report (May PCE):
- **Headline PCE** is running about **4.1% YoY**, up from 3.8% in April, the highest in ~3 years and exactly what economists were braced for. [money.usnews](https://money.usnews.com/investing/news/articles/2026-06-25/us-pce-inflation-measure-tops-4-0-in-may-consumer-spending-strong)
- Month‑over‑month, PCE rose **0.4%**, same as April – no fresh acceleration, but still too hot. [cnn](https://www.cnn.com/2026/06/25/economy/us-pce-inflation-may)
- **Core PCE** (ex‑food & energy): around **3.4% YoY**, up a tick from 3.3%; monthly core at **0.3%**, again in line with expectations. [investing](https://www.investing.com/economic-calendar/core-pce-price-index-905)
So the key point is: **nothing “blew out” above the whisper numbers.** It’s bad in an absolute sense (still double the Fed’s target), but **not worse than the market had positioned for** after CPI and Warsh’s hawkish tone. [tradingeconomics](https://tradingeconomics.com/united-states/pce-price-index-monthly-change/news/561821)
That allows bonds to breathe a bit:
- Yields had already moved up into the PCE print on fear of an upside surprise; when the number hit **as expected**, you get a **“relief rally” in Treasuries** and yields drift lower.
- Lower yields help all the long‑duration stuff — especially mega‑cap tech and AI — even though, ironically, the inflation backdrop is exactly why Warsh just took cuts off the table.
***
## How that sits next to MU’s craziness
Now overlay MU:
- Micron has turned into the **poster child of the AI memory boom**, with revenue and margins going parabolic:
- Q2 FY26 revenue nearly **tripled YoY**, with record gross margins (~75%) and record free cash flow. [quartr](https://quartr.com/events/micron-technology-inc-mu-q2-2026_3Yxg298f)
- Q3 guidance was for **another record**, with a single quarter’s revenue guide bigger than *entire prior years*. [axios](https://www.axios.com/2026/06/24/micron-earnings-expectations-have-gone-vertical)
- Into last night, the stock was up **750% over 12 months** and **250%+ YTD** — expectations “went vertical.” [axios](https://www.axios.com/2026/06/24/micron-earnings-expectations-have-gone-vertical)
- Earnings and guidance were strong again, but the stock has been a **whipsaw**:
- First, a giant run into the print.
- Then a brutal sell‑off as people realized how thin the “bubble film” had become.
- Then another spike as shorts and FOMO piled in on the actual numbers and guidance. [fxleaders](https://www.fxleaders.com/news/2026/06/24/mu-stock-prints-a-new-high-as-micron-technology-reports-record-q3-yet-stretched-valuation-keeps-risk-elevated/)
So MU isn’t moving on PCE; it’s moving on the realization that **even spectacular fundamentals can’t justify infinite multiple expansion**. Your “physics” analogy from the post captures it: a limited amount of real money (the air) stretched the price (the bubble surface) to the point where a tiny change in sentiment could knock \$100 off the stock.
***
## Why yields can fall even with hot PCE
- The Fed’s preferred gauge **confirms** what we already knew: inflation is stuck in the 3.5–4% range, and headline is now **over 4%**, mainly on energy. [money.usnews](https://money.usnews.com/investing/news/articles/2026-06-25/us-pce-inflation-measure-tops-4-0-in-may-consumer-spending-strong)
- But markets had already priced a lot of that in after CPI, retail sales, and Warsh’s “we may hike” debut. Today’s PCE **didn’t add a new shock**, so bonds get a modest bid and yields slide.
- For MU and the AI complex, the key driver isn’t this individual PCE print; it’s the **combination** of:
- A higher‑for‑longer Fed regime, *and*
- Valuations that implied AI would be flawless, frictionless, and linear forever.
Today’s tape is essentially saying:
> “Macro is bad but not worse; AI demand is real but not magic; and anything priced like a golden goose that lays a 2‑pound solid‑gold egg every quarter is going to live with massive volatility while gravity (and PCE) are still pulling underneath.”
So MU gets tossed between bubble physics and real earnings, while rates sag a bit on “no surprise” PCE. Both things can be true at the same time.
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